“I can have students straight out of college who hate technology because their only experience of it is the worst elements … They never learned how to be a part of real conversations. They never learned how to shape relationships … and so they are deeply almost scarred by it, right?”

“When I’ve talked with pastors who’ve taken the lead and tried to do more digital presence with their congregations, it’s almost always positive. A sense of, ‘It really made me feel connected to my parishioners, or my parishioners feel connected to me in a new way,’ or, ‘I watched other parishioners connect with each other.'”

“The age old question [is] how do you get people to engage? Just because it’s easy to engage doesn’t mean that people will and it doesn’t mean that they will consistently. If you’re developing a digital strategy as part of your adult ed program or whatever, the question remains, how do you get people to buy-in? When there’s no real carrot and there’s no real stick, how do you get them to really be engaged?”